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Toondah marina scrapped from draft plans

07 Dec, 2011 03:10 PM
PLANS for a 200-berth marina at Toondah Harbour have been taken out of a Redland City Council draft document to revamp the Cleveland terminal.

The council will send the amended document, which outlines redevelopment options, to the State Coordinator-General in a bid to get the state to undertake the terminal's overhaul.

Revamping Toondah Harbour is Redland City's number one priority project and the draft review, outlining project completion by 2015, was compiled by consultants GHD.

The in-principle decision to eliminate plans for the marina was made at Wednesday's Planning and Policy committee meeting but will be put to next week's general meeting for final approval.

The decision allows the state government, via the Coordinator-General's office, to drive the harbour's redevelopment.

It overturns a 2007 plan which also included a five to seven-storey development at the site along with a bayside promenade and associated plaza.

Cr Craig Ogilvie, whose Division 2 takes in Toondah Harbour, welcomed the decision to ditch the 200-berth marina proposal and remove the master plan, adopted in 2007, from the redevelopment options.

Cr Ogilvie said the 2007 marina option was "like a smelly cat around council's neck", only had a "thin business case" and would destroy an adjacent dog park.

He said the marina option did not provide for parking and would not expand tourism.

"The council needs to take advantage of its coastline and maximise the opportunities for an attractive departure to Stradbroke Island ? not five-storey buildings in that area," Cr Ogilvie said.

"I am glad we are at this stage of going to the state government because it would be impossible to develop the harbour area without the state government," he said.

However, Cr Karen Williams (Div 9) said eliminating the marina option from the draft document was putting the planning for the harbour "back to square one".

"This was originally put forward as a commercially viable option," Cr Williams said. "Now we're handing it back to the state and saying 'this is your baby'.

"There is no formal commitment from the state nor is there a contingency plan if the state decides not to progress this project," Cr Williams said.

Cr Murray Elliott (Div 7) told the meeting there was a "window of opportunity" now to get the state government onboard as North Stradbroke Island moved away from a mining economy over the next eight years.

On Monday, Shadow Minister for Tourism Jann Stuckey (Currumbin) and Cleveland MP Mark Robinson visited Toondah Harbour before going to Straddie to meet tourism industry representatives.

Mr Robinson agreed with Cr Elliott and said the "window of opportunity" included a viable business case for a public-private joint venture to upgrade the harbour, vital for the island's economy.

"Getting this project driven by the Coordinator-General's office is good but the council must not wash its hands of its responsibilities," Mr Robinson said.

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This is madness! Look at Manly, the marina is a benefit to the area and is pleasing to the eye. Coffee shops, restaurants and well designed parks line the foreshore around this area. And compare this to Cleveland?

I think we should add the Mad Hatter from the movie Alice in Wonderland to the list of movie characters that these Councillors are trying to impersonate.

Goofy idea indeed. Can't wait the council elections as we need to perhaps exchange this bunch for a new professional group of logical Councillors.

Posted by Big Mac with Chips, 7/12/2011 4:49:47 PM, on Bayside Bulletin
Hooray to the council for avoiding yet another tacky foreshore "development" full of desperate shopkeepers, struggling cafes and completely lacking any relationship to its immediate neighbourhood or natural environment.
Posted by LJ, 7/12/2011 5:09:18 PM, on Bayside Bulletin
Councillor Craig Ogilvie said and i will cut and paste it

blah, blah, "and would destroy an adjacent dog park".

Well Councillor, you will have plenty of time to walk your dog after this attitude.

One could imagine that the council is tidying up and going to re-run last election's campaign. I reckon more than one can see this. The trouble for the council this time is they are the council. Last time they came in as 'liberating angels' to free us from the previous council.

This even looks bad and desperate. Making williams look good, no, not really.


Posted by burdened, 7/12/2011 6:20:27 PM, on Bayside Bulletin
5-7 Storey units on the Harbour? Marina? and cafes,? wouldn't that destroy the view from units to be constructed at 67 Shore Street East? Now who has had dealings there I wonder? With only a 4 metre difference in elevation the views to the Bay from Shore Street East would be seriously compromised one would assume. Ah no conflict of interest declared though.
Posted by Thermopylae, 7/12/2011 8:05:38 PM, on Bayside Bulletin
No conflict of interest declared because I have no 'dealings' in Shore St East. A Marina might be a great asset to an area, but the consultants study raises serious questions about its compatitibility in a small harbour with commercial barge and water taxi functions. The area is firstly a transport hub - we shouldn't forget that. The State might resurect the Marina idea, but Council was right to clear the slate of flawed concept plans that dont prioritise transport and amenity.
Posted by crcraigo, 7/12/2011 9:08:29 PM, on Bayside Bulletin

Please Councillor Craig Ogilvie keep those good ones coming.

You probably didn't realise what a standard you were setting when you used the

"and would destroy an adjacent dog park." line.

WOW unforgetable and unforgivable.

What a choice, a dog park or a 200 boat marina and a highrise development.

How can this council argue against a highrise. More people without any more koala trees being cut down to build low set houses.

That's funny, a dog park, where the council has to fence, maintain, supply do bags for free or a marina with extra jobs, no council work.


Posted by burdened, 7/12/2011 10:11:37 PM, on Bayside Bulletin
Hi burdened, "the dog park line' was one of many reasons I put for not supporting the 'development plan'. Others were: no provision of carparks for NSI needs; open space deficit for the soon to be dense surrounding neighbourhood; recreational boat/public transport boat conflicts; a thin business case; scale of development 5-7 storey on coastline; scale of development detracting from CBD...you might find the consultant's report more convincing - its online. The old plan prioritises high rise above the essential functions of the area. The report makes quite clear the 2007 decision was a dud.
Posted by crcraigo, 8/12/2011 2:14:27 PM, on Bayside Bulletin
Is there going to be pay to park for the visitors and residents of Straddie in this revised plan.

Once again any excuse to stop the Redland from becoming anything other than a giant retirement village.

Once again killing off any chance of jobs and businesses being created. A marina opens wallets, dog people cannot even supply their dog's poo bags.

Those mini highrises of 5/7 storey, WOW. all those people, all wanting a pint of milk and a loaf of bread everyday plus much, much more. Short sighted or what!!

"and would destroy an adjacent dog park"

Posted by burdened, 8/12/2011 2:56:29 PM, on Bayside Bulletin
Tourism is meant to be a priority for the Redlands. More particularly NSI but my question is where are all these tourists going to stay. What will entice them here. Sure they can walk their dogs, but they'll have nowhere to stay. And where are they going to eat, and spend their money. No restaurants means a long walk to the food court at Capalaba.
Posted by amused, 8/12/2011 4:45:03 PM, on Bayside Bulletin
So the council have finally scrapped something promoted by the previous 'build anything anywhere' council. All too little too late.
Posted by Long-term resident, 9/12/2011 8:11:54 AM, on Bayside Bulletin
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