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Turnbull trades ideas at Capalaba

05 Nov, 2009 04:19 PM
FEDERAL Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull met with business owners and residents at Capalaba Park shopping centre last Friday, discussing a range of topics from the emissions trading scheme (ETS) to the chances of local MP, Andrew Laming, in the next election.

Mr Turnbull said the opposition was working to secure amendments to the Rudd Government's ETS in agriculture, which would impact on local industry.

"We're seeking to amend the ETS in a way that protects jobs and does more for the environment ? the reality is that if you put a heavy carbon price onto Australian industries when other countries aren't doing the same thing, you run the risk of exporting jobs as well as the emissions," he said.

"We're trying to secure exemptions in agriculture with livestock excluded [from emissions calculations] as they do in Europe but also to have incentives for farmers to manage their land better, so we have more vegetation storing more carbon."

Dr Laming added that a large biomass grid about to be built nearby would not be eligible for exemptions under the current Rudd proposal, which they were seeking to amend.

"Locally we could also see impacts on the poultry industry, any industries that rely heavily on transport and keeping the cost of fuel low, so our local ferry operators could be impacted, and we've already seen the closure of Fisher & Paykel, which shows how vulnerable industry is here," Dr Laming said.

Mr Turnbull also supported the suggestion that part of the ETS revenue be spent on further research into the health of Moreton Bay, proposed by Redlands aquatic ecology consultant Dr John Thorogood recently.

"Increased research will be a vital part of the scheme; you can have all the taxes you like but ultimately you'll be seeking technological change and we need financial incentives to drive that."

He also welcomed the work of Redland City Council in developing a Storm Tide Hazard Study, but stopped short of committing to an ETS that funnelled funding to local councils to help deal with climate change.

Mr Turnbull said he was confident Dr Laming would not have a battle on his hands for Bowman, which was recently redistributed to be notionally a Labor seat.

"I think he'll do very well, he's very well liked. I don't think I've ever been with a local member where so many people know him and he knows them," he said.

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Just another opposition pollie promising whatever he thinks you want to hear.

Just awful, shallow as a dog dish with contents to match.

Posted by burdened, 6/11/2009 12:57:14 PM
burdened just described just described Krudd to a tee.

Where's my daughter's computer?

Where's my ultrafast broadband?

What in the blue blazes is happening with Telstra?

What happened to the hospital takeover?

So many lies, so much spin.

Posted by shuffle, 6/11/2009 4:07:08 PM
Kevin from heaven has been a bit distracted by a global financial meltdown that Turnbull's mob, perhaps not causing, but certainly not doing anything to lessen the effects.

Had we left it to Turnbull's mob we would be in depresssion now.

Sorry about your daughter's computer, but she has food on the table.

Ask Turnbull's Senate mates about the broadband.

Telstra is a private company now; with a monopoly that the ACCC should be looking at. Would you, if you had to decide, take over the hospitals???

Perhaps these 'promises' were made while in opposition.

Posted by burdened, 6/11/2009 5:20:39 PM
In the accompanying photo, is Turnbull saying to Laming: 'Try to keep the number of letters down to about this size a day, that should be OK?????"
Posted by burdened, 6/11/2009 11:17:05 PM
Many thanks Burdened and shuffle for your contributions to this debate.

Obviously shuffle has never lived through a major depression.

We in our eighties and nineties can put a picture to Henry Lawson's poem of ragged starving children in the rain.

We are fortunate that today we do not starve and the dole or pension will supply our immediate needs if we do not drink or gamble.

This was not so in the early 1930's and the government then considered it was more important to reduce debt than to put some food into the mouths of starving children.

In our maturity we have come to realise that debt is only a figure in a ledger but the memories of starving will go on during the lifetime and it is of higher priority to feed the poor than to reduce the figures in the ledger.

Posted by Rod carter, 7/11/2009 4:42:13 AM
thank you Rod, I am a child of 1947, not directly affected by the depression.

But having grown up with and worked with people who did, the thing that always came through was the fear and dread that these folk had of the depression returning.

The 10-year-old in 1930 was the soldier who went off to fight in1939.

Amazingly I never got any depression talk from my parents and had wrongly assumed somehow they had got through OK.

Only a few years ago after contacting a long lost aunt, my late dad's sister, we found out how tough their family had had it.

This is the same man who struggled as a child through the depression then went and fought in Borneo etc.

As did thousands of others.

The war was the excuse for the debt that should have happened in 1930.

This debt is a long term thing.

I remember Gough Whitlam was in power when the debt for the WW2 was paid off.

In the meantime we had run up debt in the Korean war and then Vietnam.

Probably still in debt for these wars.

As Rod says it is only a number, it is going to cost everyone a little extra (probably in taxation and interest rates) for many years, but surely that is preferable to another. depression.

Posted by burdened, 8/11/2009 6:40:07 PM

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PARK TALKS: Federal Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull and Bowman MP Andrew Laming at Capalaba Park. Photo: Melissa Gibson
PARK TALKS: Federal Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull and Bowman MP Andrew Laming at Capalaba Park. Photo: Melissa Gibson
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